The college football season is just under two weeks away now and the Associated Press just released its top-25 heading into the season. Thanks to cleveland.com, the website’s Chris Fedor and Bud Shaw got to talk to Ohio State beat reporter Doug Lesmerises on Thursday.

Lesmerises talked not only about Ohio State (ranked No. 6) and Michigan (ranked No. 7), the two top dogs heading into 2016 from the Big Ten, but about how the conference could see zero teams in the College Football Playoff at the end of the year.