Colin Cowherd isn’t afraid to spew his hot takes on anyone who will listen, regardless of how ridiculous it may sound.

The FOX Sports radio host had a pretty bold take on Wednesday, saying that he didn’t see Michigan or Texas as “football schools.” Fortunately, college football analyst Joel Klatt was there to try and talk some sense into Cowherd.

Cowherd brought up Michigan’s struggle to win a B1G title and beat Ohio State, as well as big gaps between national titles.

“When you say Ohio State, I think football. When you say Alabama, I think football. When you say Michigan, I think ‘what a great school,'” Cowherd said.

Klatt just rolled his eyes after Cowherd’s remarks.

Here’s the full video of Cowherd and Klatt going back and forth on Texas and Michigan.